Here's some in-process pics of design #3 of our arm warmer gloves. These are working up quite quickly, and should be finished soon. We changed the rib from a k2, p2 rib to a k1, p1 rib to see if that helps the stretching issue. Different yarns stretch differently, even when using the same stitch. We found that with they grey heather, they have to be washed frequently because that yarn stretches easily. (Frequently meaning after 2-3 wearings) The yarn shown here seems to stretch about the same, so we are trying a tighter rib to increase the length of time that the gloves can be worn before washing.